tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post8024513320706106831..comments2023-09-24T05:45:23.811-05:00Comments on Paleoglot: Good morning & night goodGlen Gordonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-13394164805823985112013-06-28T06:17:08.911-05:002013-06-28T06:17:08.911-05:00In Romanian "Buna ziua", "Buna sear...In Romanian "Buna ziua", "Buna seara", "Buna dimineata" are welcoming formulas, but "Noapte buna" is a farewell formula. If you want to say farewell during the day you say "O zi buna" - "(Have) a nice day" or "O seara buna" - "(Have) a nice evening"Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15517732600161145075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-21078450456467283162013-04-08T22:46:29.047-05:002013-04-08T22:46:29.047-05:00Perhaps there was an analogical pressure to ensure...Perhaps there was an analogical pressure to ensure a final -ă in all semantically-related phrases. If the phrase follows the general Adj + N order 'bună noapte', then it is the only one in the paradigm not ending in -ă. Hence the order reversal to 'noapte bună'. kiwehtinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17308615465960261799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-57413072671934574422013-02-27T16:28:32.903-06:002013-02-27T16:28:32.903-06:00I have done some historical research. It seems tha...I have done some historical research. It seems that in Old Polish the normal word order in greetings was <i>dobry dzień</i> and <i>dobry wieczór</i>. In the mid-17th century there was a tendency to reverse <b>both</b> of them to <i>dzień dobry</i> and <i>wieczór dobry</i>. After a period of hesitation, with both orders co-existing, one variant in each pair became fixed: <i>dzień dobry</i> and <i>Piotr Gąsiorowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06339278493073512102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-11764011644792078392013-02-27T14:37:34.167-06:002013-02-27T14:37:34.167-06:00Another idea, maybe as silly as the previous one: ...Another idea, maybe as silly as the previous one: What if originally 'dobry' in 'dzień dobry' is a complement rather than an attribute, I mean something like 'good (may) be your day!' (sorry for my Polish: "[niech] dzień [pana jest] dobry]") has been simplified to what we see in the Polish of today...? Or, perhaps, due to different discourse frequency (?) and/or Peťusekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02569341081414751770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-3764774745384462382013-02-25T15:15:51.908-06:002013-02-25T15:15:51.908-06:00The long form, I think (not that it matters much f...The long form, I think (not that it matters much for Polish, especialy in the feminine, where the endings have merged). We also have <i>dobry wieczór</i> 'good evening', obviously with the long form of the adjective. <i>Dzień dobry</i> is simply exceptional for reasons that are unclear to me. It's all the more puzzling in view of Czech <i>dobrý den</i>, Russian <i>dóbryj den’</i> and Piotr Gąsiorowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06339278493073512102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-9376513643289216372013-02-25T04:21:07.010-06:002013-02-25T04:21:07.010-06:00Just a hunch: is 'dobranoc' based on the s...Just a hunch: is 'dobranoc' based on the short form (dobra) or long form (dobraja)? 'dobry' is based on the long one (dobrUjI), right?Peťusekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02569341081414751770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-14891257632938534942013-02-24T19:23:00.974-06:002013-02-24T19:23:00.974-06:00Come to think of it, I wonder why we have the same...Come to think of it, I wonder why we have the same untypical word order in the Polish greeting <i>dzień dobry</i> 'day + good', instead of the normal pattern seen in <i>dobranoc</i> 'good night' (univerbated). Frankly, I have no idea.Piotr Gąsiorowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06339278493073512102noreply@blogger.com