tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post7921458744089405786..comments2023-09-24T05:45:23.811-05:00Comments on Paleoglot: Proto-Semitic as a second languageGlen Gordonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-13363445106574534612015-08-16T16:39:18.908-05:002015-08-16T16:39:18.908-05:00Where I can find a checklist of IE-Semitic loanwor...Where I can find a checklist of IE-Semitic loanwords? I know about *gHaido- "goat", *tauro- "bull", h2ster- "star", septm "seven". PIE loans from PSem, or from a third source, common to both? João Simõeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222169018695033058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-5915916007160982212012-07-21T04:22:17.642-05:002012-07-21T04:22:17.642-05:00"I think the distribution of AA suggests an o..."I think the distribution of AA suggests an origin from East Africa. However within the larger context of the Nostratic hypothesis, AA must then have first entered Africa from the Near East before spreading out."<br /><br />An East African (or southeast Saharan) origin seems probable IMO, but I will always be bothered by these apparent "loanwords from the Sumerian and Caucasian Kalvin Vasqueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09403016894244748643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-37016992660194764072012-07-20T12:49:00.850-05:002012-07-20T12:49:00.850-05:00I think the distribution of AA suggests an origin ...I think the distribution of AA suggests an origin from East Africa. However within the larger context of the Nostratic hypothesis, AA must then have first entered Africa from the Near East before spreading out.<br /><br />Many people online banter back and forth with genetics and archaeology to prove their claims of language movement but I've said many times that these considerations are onlyGlen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-4041664409588883582012-07-19T23:40:36.832-05:002012-07-19T23:40:36.832-05:00Quick question... Though this is a bit off topic, ...Quick question... Though this is a bit off topic, what are your thoughts on the Urheimat of the Afro-Asiatic language family?Kalvin Vasqueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09403016894244748643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-10660466958778600052011-02-27T17:30:55.463-06:002011-02-27T17:30:55.463-06:00Abu: "[...] and we find they lost dramatic nu...<b>Abu: <i>"[...] and we find they lost dramatic numbers of phonemes, indicating the language spread north and upon contact with other languages"</i></b><br /><br />Nonsense. Proximity to original locale has nothing to do with rate of phonemic change or any other change and I won't indulge you in that invalid argument. If your view were valid, clearly Armenian should be closer to Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-55332753087099767172011-02-27T02:43:05.610-06:002011-02-27T02:43:05.610-06:00The signs point a lot more towards an Arabian orig...The signs point a lot more towards an Arabian origin (keeping in mind Syria is the northern-most tip of the Arabian peninsula anyway).<br /><br />The further south one goes into the peninsula, the more pristine the Semitic features of the languages there become. In fact the only Semitic languages still retaining all 29 proto-Semitic phonemes exist in Southern Arabia (MSA languages), and modern Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08312309174326247968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-46573659883410698862009-02-02T21:52:00.000-06:002009-02-02T21:52:00.000-06:00Hi, Mathilda. Thanks for your thoughts. And now th...Hi, Mathilda. Thanks for your thoughts. And now the battle begins <;-)<BR/><BR/><B>mathilda: <I>"It seems to me more likely that Southern Anatolia/Northern Iran and not Syria would be the starting point of an expansion for proto Semitic [...] the near east is NOT where farming originated or where the first farmers expanded from."</I></B><BR/><BR/>Don't confuse the ultimate <I>origins</I> of Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-18401779362829299732009-02-01T08:21:00.000-06:002009-02-01T08:21:00.000-06:00Hello, I'm a blogger who has a big interest in the...Hello, I'm a blogger who has a big interest in the Neolithic expansion and North Africa, and I'm currently looking into the languages involved in the population migrations..<BR/><BR/>It seems to me more likely that Southern Anatolia/Northern Iran and not Syria would be the starting point of an expansion for proto Semitic, as this is the point of origin for the early Neolithic crops and populationmathildahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06682429587184048584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-16415300667012064292008-03-15T08:06:00.000-05:002008-03-15T08:06:00.000-05:00Phoenix: "Though I wonder if there's no such thing...<B>Phoenix: <I>"Though I wonder if there's no such thing as linguistic purism in the Neolithic age."</I></B><BR/><BR/>Things that make you go hmmm :) However, when I was talking casually about modern purism, I was thinking more of examples like the <A HREF="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2008/02/14/qc-olf-0214.html" REL="nofollow">Quebec "Language Police"</A> (which shames us as Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-87444059340198437032008-03-15T06:52:00.000-05:002008-03-15T06:52:00.000-05:00Quite convincing all this.Though I wonder if there...Quite convincing all this.<BR/><BR/>Though I wonder if there's no such thing as linguistic purism in the Neolithic age. People may have had a less clear view on what is 'grammatical' and what is 'pure', but linguistic purism to me seems of all ages and times; no reason for it not to exist in those times.<BR/><BR/>The big problem with that of course is: Only <I>proof</I> we have of linguistic PhoeniXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17627425696035152752noreply@blogger.com