tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post7128829341266457752..comments2023-09-24T05:45:23.811-05:00Comments on Paleoglot: The loss of mediofinal 'h' in Pre-Proto-EtruscanGlen Gordonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-12416472432924571652008-06-05T13:30:00.000-05:002008-06-05T13:30:00.000-05:00Tropylium: "Actually, I was going on about a prece...<B>Tropylium: <I>"Actually, I was going on about a preceding sibilant causing *x > v. Vowels and sibilants do not comprise a natural class, so it seems we need two separate rules here."</I></B><BR/><BR/>Great observation! My mind has been so stuck on the pattern itself that I guess I never really thought about the mechanics of it yet. Your idea made me decide to swim through my data again to makeGlen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-39681935940471049422008-06-02T15:48:00.000-05:002008-06-02T15:48:00.000-05:00Actually, I was going on about a preceding sibilan...Actually, I was going on about a preceding sibilant causing *x > v. Vowels and sibilants do not comprise a natural class, so it seems we need two separate rules here. Simple voicing can account for the vowels, but for the sibilants, the rule would seem to be, in phonological terms, dissimilation of obstruency in continuants. So one might similarly also be on the lookout for let's say *sφ > sv, *Tropyliumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12113202845911582040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-5438247405689944302008-05-20T17:40:00.000-05:002008-05-20T17:40:00.000-05:00Tropylium: "Neat stuff. Except, you mean *-hva, ri...<B>Tropylium: <I>"Neat stuff. Except, you mean *-hva, right?"</I></B><BR/><BR/>Yes, I should have written <B>*-hva</B>. Mea culpa. Congratulations, you found my easter egg surprise! :)<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>Tropylium: <I>"The conditioning suggests next looking if other *F+F clusters dissimilate too, and if yes, to what? (If there even are any.)"</I></B><BR/><BR/>I'm not sure what you have in mind Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-3706979465822261552008-05-20T08:12:00.000-05:002008-05-20T08:12:00.000-05:00Neat stuff. Except, you mean *-hva, right?The cond...Neat stuff. Except, you mean *-hva, right?<BR/><BR/>The conditioning suggests next looking if other *F+F clusters dissimilate too, and if yes, to what? (If there even are any.)Tropyliumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12113202845911582040noreply@blogger.com