tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post7015936335844546131..comments2023-09-24T05:45:23.811-05:00Comments on Paleoglot: Ammendments to Etruscan Dictionary Draft 003Glen Gordonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-3482054907445403102012-04-20T16:07:57.243-05:002012-04-20T16:07:57.243-05:00The word umene is found on ET Vs 2.12, a Volsinian...The word <b>umene</b> is found on <a href="http://books.google.ca/books?id=g-Gj4uZl3aEC&pg=PA98&dq=umene" rel="nofollow"><i>ET Vs 2.12</i></a>, a Volsinian vessel of the 6th to 5th century BCE. This vessel, quite simply, "was dedicated".Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-27041578654872694082012-04-19T17:40:40.259-05:002012-04-19T17:40:40.259-05:00hi guys
I am intereted in the verb "um" ...hi guys<br />I am intereted in the verb "um" and its passive voice form "umene" as of Glen's glossary; unfortunately I could not locate the item description giving the original inscription this was obtained from and how this meaning was determined<br />hope you can help<br />regards<br />Regisregishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00180523235918693131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-473145473353654732011-01-16T15:50:36.895-06:002011-01-16T15:50:36.895-06:00You could try that but then you'd have to cont...You could try that but then you'd have to contend with <a href="http://books.google.ca/books?id=VWGN6e5Rzf8C&pg=PA92&dq=%22Genitive+cla%22&hl=en&ei=xlozTdr-C9HPgAe_8_y9Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22Genitive%20cla%22&f=false" rel="nofollow"><i>cla</i> 'of the' and <i>-cl=θi</i> 'in the'</a>, Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-48383245753566819882011-01-16T13:43:02.191-06:002011-01-16T13:43:02.191-06:00While there is the independent (ie. non-suffixed) ...<i>While there is the independent (ie. non-suffixed) form cei, I see no enclitic counterpart other than -cle. There is no suffix **-ci as one might expect.</i><br /><br />Could this imply the loss of the dative form, and the transfer of dative function to the locative form?Casey Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15515485425230479050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-87114648755540783072011-01-15T22:04:00.714-06:002011-01-15T22:04:00.714-06:00Ah right. This is an annoying little problem, I do...Ah right. This is an annoying little problem, I do admit. Livable but annoying. It involves the fact that I lumped all attested forms under a word entry in a single field "forms" and that, rather than organizing according to alphabet, I listed them according to derivation type (ie. nomino-accusative, genitive, locative etc. in that order).<br /><br />So this comes back to some ideas I&#Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-4617111182982684112011-01-15T12:28:39.064-06:002011-01-15T12:28:39.064-06:00Also, I observed what may be a slip:
this, the (l...Also, I observed what may be a slip:<br /><br />this, the (loc.) -cle pron.prox.<br />this, the (loc.+'in') cl-θ pron.prox.<br />this, the (loc.+'in') ecl-θi pron.prox.<br />this, the (loc.+gen.) clel pron.prox.<br /><br />Isn't -le the type II dative ending?Casey Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15515485425230479050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-77384753697082968582011-01-15T10:19:22.290-06:002011-01-15T10:19:22.290-06:00Such troubles appear just by tying ac*.
Acalas ...Such troubles appear just by tying ac*.<br /> Acalas ni.(I) Acalva [month] (gen.sg.)<br /> Acalve ni.(I) Acalva [month] (loc.)<br /> Acale ni.(I) Acalva [month] (loc.)<br /> Acalia ni.(I) Acalva [month] (comm.)<br /> Acalva ni.(I) Acalva [month] (na.)<br /> Acries na.(I/II) Acarie [gentilicium] (gen.)<br /> Acarie na.(I/II) Acarie [gentilicium] (na.)<br /><br />These Casey Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15515485425230479050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-15804881145477941572011-01-13T07:28:31.122-06:002011-01-13T07:28:31.122-06:00Aaah, that English-to-Etruscan function was on my ...Aaah, that English-to-Etruscan function was on my to-do list, I know. Now I see what you're up to. Before I tackle the English look-up function, I want to straighten out some other issues in my belaboured brain that my database has brought me face-to-face with. Stuff like theories on data organization and some novel approaches I might try.<br /><br />Let me know of a specific example of this Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-56890741752138101142011-01-10T10:41:54.505-06:002011-01-10T10:41:54.505-06:00The reason I made this was for an alternative (for...The reason I made this was for an alternative (for the old-minded), and since on occasion, the entires in your applet aren't in alphabetical order (e.g. "Acnasvers" might inexplicably come after Athnal. That specific example didn't happen, but similar things did).<br /><br />Also, I figured that it might make creating and English-Etruscan version somewhat (somehow) less dauntingCasey Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15515485425230479050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-8459961494529432742011-01-10T00:52:05.460-06:002011-01-10T00:52:05.460-06:00I hate to say it but... What a grievous waste of y...I hate to say it but... What a grievous waste of your time.<br /><br />I started with PDF lists but once I made my searchable and updatable dictionary applet, lists became inferior to this new system.<br /><br />Since I update monthly or sometimes weekly, any list you think you've completed will have already been outdated. Your efforts will always be second-rate. So this is why I'm Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-90567658038005101102011-01-09T20:11:39.284-06:002011-01-09T20:11:39.284-06:00I've tried making an alphabetized list of the ...I've tried making an alphabetized list of the Online Etruscan-English dictionary, and have nearly completed it.<br />I took the liberty of using the Latin letter-order, and inserted χ, φ, ś, and θ after c, p, s, and t respectively.<br /><br />Most of the editing so far has been straightforward, but I'd like to know if *papamer is correct, or if it should be *papaver, like in your post on Casey Goransonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15515485425230479050noreply@blogger.com