tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post8951183439099594313..comments2023-09-24T05:45:23.811-05:00Comments on Paleoglot: Back to 'back'Glen Gordonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-44950037787744663552011-01-18T21:35:19.748-06:002011-01-18T21:35:19.748-06:00@ Phoenix: "A rather odd word to to loan,&quo...@ Phoenix: <i>"A rather odd word to to loan,"</i> <br />If we assume that the original meaning was "backside", this could be either an expressive or euphemistic loan (depending on the status of the source language in relation to Greek). Or it could have been a medical term. For euphemistic or medical use, that would be comparable to the use of Latin names of body parts in Hanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10929065286701743522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-74272995700909346122011-01-17T23:45:08.953-06:002011-01-17T23:45:08.953-06:00Phoenix: "Glad to see my suggestion forced yo...<b>Phoenix: <i>"Glad to see my suggestion forced you to go into deep meditation ;-)"</i></b><br /><br />Nay, young grasshopper. Words cannot force deep meditation. One need only untie one's mind from the shore and let it drift down the river of thought like a loose twig carried along by the current. So says the lord Buddha. ;o)Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-19834705134536428062011-01-17T23:33:40.841-06:002011-01-17T23:33:40.841-06:00Hans: "Do you have any ideas on the etymology...<b>Hans: <i>"Do you have any ideas on the etymology of ὀσφύς and ὄσχη as well?"</i></b><br /><br />It seems that <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/resolveform?type=start&lookup=osfus&lang=greek" rel="nofollow">ὀσφύς 'hips'</a> has already been attributed to PIE <a href="http://books.google.ca/books?id=8sycj-dozxAC&lpg=PA46&dq=*h2ost-bhu-&pg=PA46#v=Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-1407279335937638702011-01-17T20:45:38.610-06:002011-01-17T20:45:38.610-06:00A rather odd word to to loan, but other than that,...A rather odd word to to loan, but other than that, definitely nicer than a PIE reconstruction.<br /><br />Glad to see my suggestion forced you to go into deep meditation ;-)PhoeniXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17627425696035152752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-11918242302527818212011-01-16T21:32:33.823-06:002011-01-16T21:32:33.823-06:00That seems a very plausible etymology. This means ...That seems a very plausible etymology. This means that there is no genetic link between ἰσχίον and ὀσφύς. Do you have any ideas on the etymology of ὀσφύς and ὄσχη as well?Hanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10929065286701743522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-30937072652496085162011-01-15T22:13:57.386-06:002011-01-15T22:13:57.386-06:00Nifty! It's also interesting that it doubly lo...Nifty! It's also interesting that it doubly looks like a contamination of Latin <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0059:entry%3Dspina" rel="nofollow">spīna 'thorn; spine'</a>.Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-28897098357081663082011-01-15T10:20:52.483-06:002011-01-15T10:20:52.483-06:00This reminded me of the Spanish and Occitan esquin...This reminded me of the Spanish and Occitan <i>esquina</i>, which moved me to look up some etymologies that fall right in line with your hypothesis:<br /><br />http://etimologias.dechile.net/PIE/?skei-2<br /><br />It seems the Spanish and Occitan word (there is also the Italian <i>schiena</i>) derives from a Germanic source related to 'shin' and, further back to other words emerging from Kiwehtinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07831448036496196819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-45215540637476340142011-01-14T23:26:32.886-06:002011-01-14T23:26:32.886-06:00Yes, we humans are indeed split all the way down, ...Yes, we humans are indeed split all the way down, aren't we? I don't know why but this reminds me of a quote from Chris Griffin on Family Guy:<br /><br />"Um, okay. You know Anna, when I first saw you, I thought you were the most beautiful girl in the world, and now all I wanna do is show you my inner most self, but I'm afraid you'll reject me because you won't like what Glen Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02440249042894225949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7202150793869184289.post-62440693680977238592011-01-14T22:35:47.024-06:002011-01-14T22:35:47.024-06:00Now, if this term originally referred to the '...<b><i>Now, if this term originally referred to the 'spine' then it indeed 'splits' the back into two halves.</i></b><br /><br />Alternatively, it could refer to the rump, which is rather prominently divided into two cheeks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18098587142108525189noreply@blogger.com